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Ben, is it possible that some of the difficulties in interpreting Marx arises out of ambiguities in his own thought, and not just in the interpreters?

I agree that Marx usually identifies the capitalist mode of production with the dominance of a system of employers paying money wages to labourers who have no legal obligation to work for them but also don’t have their own means of production and so have to sell the right to tell them how to use their labouring powers to *somebody*.

Basically, capitalism on this view is about the employer-employee relation, understood as legally equal but actually embodying a class relationship. This relationship presupposes commodity forms, but it is perfectly possible to have commodity forms without this relationship (or with this relationship as secondary to other more important class relationships).

Indeed, Marx recognizes that Smith’s “early and rude state of society” is not actually how hunter gatherer societies work, but is the system of petty commodity production. This is characterized by individuals or families who own some small-scale means of production and work on those and sell the products in a market. Not only is this a system in which there are labour values, it is the *only* system in which equilibrium prices are proportional to those values, since petty commodity producers respond to price signals by adjusting their labour supply, while capitalists respond by adjusting their investments, including both in wages and in acquiring means of production. Unless the labour-intensity of all industries is the same, equilibrium prices won’t be proportional to labour values because they will be higher in capital-intensive and lower in labour-intensive industries. Marx not only doesn’t deny this, he insists on it. He just denies it is the source of profit/interest/rent.

But while he identifies the “capitalist mode of production” with the system of doubly free labour t, he also identifies capital with that social substance that is used to purchase forces of production, consume them in a production process and sell the commodities, with the aim of obtaining greater money at the end of the process: M-C-M’.

But this is just a different thing from doubly free wage labour and there are different objections to each and different conditions of possibility of each. You can have doubly free employment by the state or non-profits. And you can have the M-C-M’ cycle with the middle term including slave labour, serfdom, or a worker’s co-operative that borrowed the money.

Maybe there is something especially interesting about capital invested in hiring free wage labour. But Marx is dismissive of Mill’s point which means he is not helpful in thinking through the problems of worker self-management with private or state financing.

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"Capital is about capitalism from the very first page" is only true in the sense that capitalism presupposes commodity production, and therefore understanding commodity production is necessary to understand capitalism, whether understood as characterized by the M-C-M' algorithm or by the dominance of doubly free wage labour as the source of surplus extraction from the direct producers. It is absolutely *not* true that commodity production only exists in the form of capitalism: you can have C-M-C without M-C-M' and you can have the sale of commodities without the commodification of labour power.

Marx devotes one sentence to saying why he is talking about commodity production in a book that is ultimately going to be about the capitalist mode of production, but that obviously does not mean that he thinks commodity production and capitalism are the same thing.

All of this is a bit orthogonal to whether commodity production plus workers control is a good vision for a future society and also as to whether Marx thought this. I think he would have considered that quite literally a "petty bourgeois utopia" and a turning back on the progressive socialization of labour under capitalism. Whether he would have been right about this requires abandoning the exegesis of texts for looking at the real world.

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